A while ago I had a go at folk who don’t know their church history and Christian tradition. I specifically took aim at the doctrine of biblical inerrancy and the idea that Christians and Jews worship different Gods, arguing that the latter is an ancient (Marcionite) idea immediately recognised by the church to be false, and that the former is a Johnny-come-lately doctrine unknown before the post-enlightenment reaction to theological liberalsim. I ended by applauding Chesterton’s bon môt that tradition is “the democracy of the dead”, refusing “to submit to the small and arrogant oligarchy of those who merely happen to be walking about.”
Although the argument then raged, everyone seemed to miss the most obvious point to be made against me: So antiquity guarantees truth? So the dead are always right and have a veto on the living? Is this not just the reverse of what C. S. Lewis called modernist “chronological snobbery”? What about doctrinal development? More specifically, as a test case (alluding to a remark I made at the time in another post), wouldn’t that make suggesting that we may have a legitimate debate on the doctrine of the virgin birth an assertion of gross inconsistency, not to say hypocrisy? It would indeed. So let me acknowledge that there is more to be said than “Tradition, tradition, tradition!” - and begin to try to say it.
I start by quoting Chesterton again, who also said that “all conservatism is based upon the idea that if you leave things alone you leave them as they are. But you do not. If you leave a thing alone you leave it to a torrent of change.” Indeed to insist on an unchanging and authoritarian tradition is to commit ecclesiastical suicide, it is to lock the church in a time warp rather than to launch it into the future. If tradition is the democracy of the dead, it is also the living faith of dead and not, as it sometimes seems, the dead faith of the living. If we cannot accept biblical fundamentalism, a fortiori we cannot accept tradition fundamentalism. Therefore we must speak not only of continuity but of instability. It has been well put that if the church is built on a rock, it is not set in concrete.
Next, let me run through several insights of serious (not just playful or nihilistic) postmodernist thinkers that problematise tradition: its inevitable cultural contextuality and the social location of its ideas and practices; the impossibility of ideological innocence; the volatile relationship between knowledge and power; the church’s bad record of marginalising dissenting voices; the fact that heresy is defined by the winners of the argument, and that - for example in the early church councils - their victories were due as much to imperial and ecclesiastical politics as to the disinterested triumph of truth: thus the need for suspicion as well as respect when engaging with traditon. None of this is to absolutise relativism, but it is to relativise absolutism - which is simply to resist idolatry. For what it’s worth, I myself am a Nicene and Chalcedonian Christian - but with an uneasy conscience, and believing that it was by grace that the muddle of men just happened to be trumped by the providence of God.
Then I want to stress the importance of human experience, including the evidence of the experimental sciences, as a factor - not the only factor, but a crucial factor - in engaging with tradition. I know there is a risk here of the tail wagging the dog, but it is a risk that has to be taken. For example, geologists tell us that the evidence demonstrates that the earth is rather more than six thousand years old, so we just can’t go on insisting in the face of the facts that it isn’t, and insofar as a multi-million year-old earth may affect our understanding of creation, well, we’ve just got to factor it into the equation and get on with it. The same goes for the theory of evolution by natural selection, the broad outlines of which are not in scientific doubt. If we repress what scientists tell us to be the case, we inevitably live intellectually schizophrenic lives - and besides, the repressed always returns, usually with a vengeance.
Finally, a point about “reading”: the impossibility, post-enlightenment, of textual naivete. If, with me, you want to contest the intellectual hegemony of modernism, you must do so in non-reactionary ways. And that goes not only for accepting the implications of scientific discoveries but also for deploying the insights of historical, cultural, literary, source, form, redaction criticism, etc. when it comes to reading the Bible. Again, the church has no monopoly on the truth, and it does itself no credit when it rejects the truth, even when it comes from non-Christian sources - and this isn’t liberalism, it’s Calvin!
So to my test case. Let us grant that, until the enlightenment, the church took the virgin birth quite literally. I know some scholars suggest that Matthew and Luke themselves knew that their stories were metaphors, but let’s assume they are wrong (I want this to be a strong test case). Nevertheless - and here I am following Hans Frei - though pre-enlightenment Christians made no distinction between the narrative meaning and the historical reference of the text, supposing that the conception and birth of Jesus took place just as described, post-enlightenment Christians now know that the matter is not so straightforward. Intellectual honesty has forced us to question such a precritical approach to the text. We have learned not to elide the question “Did it happen?” with “Is it true?”, not to confound reading a text realistically with affirming its empirical accuracy. Frei’s most interesting insight is that neither conservatives nor liberals get the point: it’s just that while conservatives proceed in denial of scholarly insights, liberals proceed by throwing out the baby of literary realism with the bathwater of historical positivism, now looking to the text for a symbolic meaning totally detachable from the story in which it’s embedded, as if the story were just the vehicle of an idea rather than the irreducible thing itself. No, Frei says, let the story work on us, draw us into its world, redefine what is real, reshape our own reality, but through what Ricoeur refers to as a “second [i.e. post-critical] naivete”.
I myself do not dismiss a literal interpretation of the virgin birth - and certainly not, as most liberals do - along with all miracles - on allegedly scientific grounds (though I must admit to having a difficulty over what the genome of Jesus might look like were Joseph not to be his biological father). I am troubled by certain biblical problems - e.g. the otherwise deafening silence about the virgin birth outside Matthew and Luke, or difficulties relating to Jesus’ Davidic descent. I also find certain theological problems bothersome - e.g. the uneasy juxtaposition of the virgin birth of Christ with his pre-existence (Paul, John and Hebrews, who speak most about the latter, say nothing about the former), and what many otherwise quite orthodox theologians (like Brunner and Bonhoeffer) have identified as the implied docetism of the doctrine (my genome query might be relevant here). And there is also, historically, the ethical scandal of the way that the church has used the virgin birth to denigrate healthy female sexuality.
But for me, the main point is made by Rowan Williams. He writes: “Luke and Matthew obviously believed they were recording real events, yet that is not how they would have seen their main job. Now that we can see how useful the story of the virginal conception was to them doesn’t mean that it can’t be true. But the more we become aware of the storytelling conventions by which such narratives grew in the first century [e.g. midrashic techniques], the harder it becomes to reach a firm judgement on the historical ground of all this.” Against those who hold that the divinity of Christ hangs on a literal interpretation of the virgin birth, Rowan adds: “We should be cautious about making this story . . . a necessary condition for believing in or speaking of God in our midst in Jesus.” And, of course, the Archbishop would find it unseemly for one Christian to unchurch another Christian over the issue. So to really put the cat among the pigeons, I would go so far as to say that if it were true (as the early Jewish calumny had it) that Jesus was born a a bastard, while it would obviously demolish my belief in a literal virgin birth, it would in no way affect my faith in Jesus as Immanuel, true God and very God among us. Indeed might it not add a kind of symmetry to the life of our Lord: as he went out of this world by a scandalous and shameful death, so he came into this world by a scandalous and shameful birth? Not a parthenogenetic conception but the unique origin of the human Jesus in God - that, for me, is the essential thing about the narratives of the virgin birth.
And there I’ll stop. My main point has been that it is perfectly possible to affirm the catholic tradition while at the same time critically testing it, reappropriating it, readjusting it, not on the basis that we now know better but that we may now know more, and that whatever we do know must not be excluded from the discussion, otherwise we threaten the very catholicity we claim to affirm. For tradition is a discussion-starter, maybe even a discussion-controller, but it is not a discussion-ender. Simply as a matter of fact, the church has had different views - and indeed changed its mind - about many things - doctrinally about hell and the second coming, ethically about usury and slavery. The church is a conversation rather than a conclusion. Its boundaries should be negotiable and permeable, and its vocation to keep faith with the past through change rather than immobility. How can it be otherwise when the God of Advent comes to us from the future as well as the past - a God who is vulnerable, open, and full of surprises?

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J 11.30.05 at 4:54 am
It seems to me your issue is with a certain type of literalist, namely those who have decided they’ve discovered the truth once and for all. But there are a lot of us “literalists” who, faced with scientific evidence that conflicts with what we’ve been taught, go back and ask if we understood what scripture said. What “deep” was there darkness over in Genesis? Does that mean there was already something there when that story began?
And I’m not sure what to make of arguments over the virgin birth. If you believe God is God, why would you question his ability to do things that a fertility specialist could accomplish using an uncommon but hardly exotic surgical procedure?
I don’t agree that “The church is a conversation rather than a conclusion. Its boundaries should be negotiable and permeable”, or maybe I do and just state it differently - that our understanding of those boundaries is constantly evolving.
Rob 11.30.05 at 6:38 am
As a biochemist and computer programmer (among many, many things), I don’t see the problem with the genome and the virgin birth. It would be very easy for God to “edit” the “game” and introduce whatever genes were necessary to create a viable embryo. The human genome is screwed up enough that a parthenogenic embryo would not survive. Turkeys, by the way, are not capable of reproducing by parthenogenesis, although they are the classic example of it in vertebrates. It just turns out the female turkeys can store sperm for a long time.
The question is whether God is capable of doing such edits, and whether God would do such edits. If God is not capable of doing such edits, then God is essentially irrelevant for humans. The question of whether God did such edits is more problematic. I see Hebrews as indicating it’s necessary for Christianity to make sense. To be an intermediary, Jesus would need to be both human and divine. There would be other possible explanations for the duality, but I don’t see a need for them.
Kim 11.30.05 at 11:17 am
Thanks for your specialist’s observation about Jesus’ genome, Rob, and for your helpful comment, J, about the need to return to the scriptures with what we learn from science - and, I would add, from experience, including the experience of what the Spirit is doing in the world today (as the primitive church returned to the scriptures to explore alternative reading strategies in the wake of the Spirit’s activity among Gentiles).
As I have said, however, for me the real problems of a literal interpretation of the virgin birth do not arise from scientific scepticism, they arise from the nature of the Matthean and Lukan texts, and from the relation of these texts to the wider NT context, and from their potential theological implications.
One caveat, however, to Rob’s nice phrase that God is “capable of doing such edits”, for even if not directly relevant here, it does raise another huge question - the question of divine power. In my view (and I am following mainstream Christian “tradition” here!), it is an egregious mistake, given the nature of the divine power disclosed in the Crucified (power “made perfect in weakness”, as Paul puts it), to think of God’s power simply as the power to do anything, both because it is God’s nature that determines God’s will and not the reverse, and because God has in fact decided kenotically to delimit his power in Christ. The power to do anything is the devil’s power, which Jesus denied and rejected in the wildnerness. God’s power always and only emerges from God’s love. This insight becomes extremely important when discussing the problems of theodicy.
dh 11.30.05 at 4:53 pm
I’m sorry but when I read Mattehw and Luke I see the virgin birth. I see nowhere anything else. This attempted undermining (because the virgin birth cannot be undermined) is what leads people astray and go after “false gods” or “other god before Me”. It isn’t tradition that solidifies the virgin birth but a clear understanding of Scripture and just because Paul doesn’t mention it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen that way. I just totally dislike “adding to the text”.
dh 11.30.05 at 5:02 pm
Just because some scientists say the earth millions of years old doesn’t mean that is the case. At least if you read Dr. D. Russell Humphries there are other “alternatives” for how the earth can appear to be millions of years old legitamtely and actually be younger. Some scientist try to disprove it but scientists have disproved facts all of the time and to say certain things are fact because a majority of scientists believe a certain way is the same as the days when a majority of scientists believed the world was flat. Devil can do anything? absurd Why did the devil ask God to torture Job? Come on God’s Holiness is part of his omnipotence. If God wasn’t Holy He wouldn’t be God.
dh 11.30.05 at 5:04 pm
Rob had some interestng thoughts and it appears he believes in the virgin birth and appeals to the “what would be the point otherwise argument” which I appreciate.
Richard 11.30.05 at 5:43 pm
I know you’re a fan of Humphries, dh, and obviously I can’t crititicize him because I’ve never read anything by him. But I can’t help feeling you set too much store by his work - a quick google search reveals that even Creationists are not universally enthusiastic for his theories (”deeply flawed on general relativity” is a phrase that sticks in my mind). And I haven’t found even one discussion of him outside of the Christian/creationist realm. That doesn’t prove he’s wrong of course but…
Kim 11.30.05 at 6:35 pm
Let me try again. My point about divine power is that it cannot be properly understood apart from the contexts in which it is used - ultimately, for Christians, the cross of Christ, which redefines the power of God in a revolutionary, counter-intuitive way, which is anything but the power “to do anything”. Or again: there is no single kind of power - God’s power is not like the devil’s power, which is foundationally coercive and violent - and the deployment of which Jesus rejects as “the” temptation. To suggest, for example, that God has the power to will genocide, it’s just that he doesn’t, makes no theological sense, driving a quite unacceptable wedge between God’s nature (which is love) and God’s purposes (which cannot include mass murder). As numerous theologians have pointed, a “sheer” will is demonic.
This important point is probably not relevant to the present discussion, unless someone wants to argue - I don’t! - that the divine power at work in the virgin birth is coercive. And indeed it could be said that in a world where sex is everything and often coercive, there is something divinely fitting about a birth that can do without coitus altogether.
But back to my main two points: (1) that it is not necessary to believe in a literal virgin birth in order to affirm the divinity of Christ; and (b) - the real thrust of my piece - that it might be that the Matthean and Lukan texts themselves, post-critically understood, militate against a literal virgin birth - and that tradition that is not traditionalist can accommodate such a position.
And, please, let’s keep our hair on! The way dh goes on you’d think I was holocaust-denier!
John 11.30.05 at 6:47 pm
Well, of course there was a virgin birth!
The Bible says so.
Duh!
dh 11.30.05 at 6:48 pm
Again: “Why did the devil ask God to torture Job? Come on God’s Holiness is part of his omnipotence.” I think it is absurd to use the argument that because God cannot sin that He can’t do anything. To even suggest that God is not omnipotent being that God created the angels is absurd.
Again “I’m sorry but when I read Mattehw and Luke I see the virgin birth. I see nowhere anything else. This attempted undermining (because the virgin birth cannot be undermined) is what leads people astray and go after “false gods†or “other god before Meâ€. I Believe strongly that one must believe in the virgin birth or how else can Jesus be God? The fact remains Jesus was fully God and fully man. Post-critically? maybe there is something wrong with the post-criticality of the position in the first place. Again I see nowhere in Scripture anything that goes against the virgin birth.
dh 11.30.05 at 6:50 pm
The “how” on the virgin birth is not mentioned because God didn’t want us to know how and wanted us to focus on the point that it was a virgin birth that is clearly stated in Scripture. Just because God doesn’t tell us how doesn’t mean it didn’t exist. “Blessed are they who have not seen and yet Believe.”
dh 11.30.05 at 6:52 pm
Amen, John.
Kim 11.30.05 at 6:57 pm
I give up.
John 11.30.05 at 7:04 pm
I have no idea why this issue trips people up all the time.
Rob 11.30.05 at 8:19 pm
I believe in the virgin birth because there is nothing that would mitigate against it in my opinion. The virgin birth is not sex. Look, I have enough trouble with the woman who was upset because her daughter was no longer a virgin — she held hands with a boy in her class.
In my life, God forces me into a lot of situations. The story of how I became a paramedic is a perfect example. God does not ask permission; God simply uses us, as Job found out. With a being as powerful as God, one must simply accept that humans are not on His level. Jesus calling us friends is an amazing and frightening thing, but I don’t know that it changes all that much. Of course, I’m not sure that God didn’t ask permission. The universe may be much stranger than it appears to our limited perspective.
As for Dr. D. Russell Humphries…. The Earth appears to be 4.5 billion years old, by all reputable scientific analysis. Now, God might have created the Earth 10,000 years ago with the appearance of 4.5 billion years, but that brings precisely the question of God’s use of power. I do not believe God would behave that way. If the universe appears to be 13.6 billion years old, then God expects us to behave as if the universe was 13.6 billion years old, even if it is only 10,000 years old. I’d even go so far as to say that, if God created the universe 10,000 years ago to appear that it is 13.6 billion years old, then, even though it was created a short time ago, it has existed for 13.6 billion years! I hope that gives everyone else a headache — it sure does me!
Of course, I also believe God is outside of time as it is measured in our universe. How one would define “24 hours” in God’s frame of reference, I do not know. But I could easily see Him creating the univere “game” in 6 days by coding it exactly as described in the first chapter of Genesis — and then, as the universe runs, 13.6 billion years of game time elapses.
How did God write the “universe game” in 6 days? Simple. Documentation was left for later! [sorry -- I love that joke!]
I have a far bigger problem with the variant descriptions of the creation of the universe in Genesis, which leads me to believe that the only intent is to answer the theological “who” of the creation of the universe, not the scientific “how.”
J 11.30.05 at 8:57 pm
Kim, are you trying to say it makes no sense that God would routinely (or, for that matter, ever) violate laws that He created Himself? That’s generally my explanation for things in The Bible that don’t seem to make sense - so far. Rob, do you believe time exists for God in our frame of reference?
dh 11.30.05 at 9:01 pm
Rob your understanding of Dr. Humphries is great. However, your conclusion on him I can’t understand. I feel God did “behave that way”. I personally feel that Dr. Humphries analysis is not fully understood by the scientific community and it seems to me to be an accurate representation of things. I feel the flood with all of that water would make things appear old when they aren’t. That isn’t the reason why God did that but that it appears that way because of the “scientific laws” that God innacted with regard to errosion. I too believe God is outside of time but helps us understand Him by mentioning time. If that makes sense. That is why in Gen 1 God mentions “evening and morning” were each of the days.
However, your last sentence is the main point. And I totally agree with this “The universe may be much stranger than it appears to our limited perspective.” and that is why I don’t adhere totally to the “old earth” in light of other science that explains the appearance. (I say “new earth” not to condemn “old earth” except when they deny the “new earth” outright. I understand the appearance and science can quatify this but there are explainations for this appearance that put this into perspective and give insight into to God’s awsome power beyond what science can explain fully.)
Rob, I really enjoyed your post even though I agree only 75%.
dh 11.30.05 at 9:03 pm
Amen, Rob on the virgin birth. It isn’t sex. Your wording on this issue is perfect.
God asking permission? I go back and forth in light of “Behold I stand at the door and knock…” I will say that the devil asked God for permission with regard to Job, though.