Completely with Richard. Although “Midnight” (the last episode which was as good as this one, the one great episode, and one of only a few half-decent episodes in the fourth series) is arguably as dark.
I thought the episode could have quite happily finished at the 45minute mark as the Doctor walked away having told the Captain that they had to die. It would have been poinent and have shown that that Doctor is indeed fallible and on occasion is unable to save anyone.
Instead he suddenly goes all bi-polar manic and comes over with a whole Master of the Universe syndrome that ended up causing the (suggested) pre-watershed suicide of the main secondary charactor.
Though how dying by your own hand in your house was supposed to save the legacy and inspire your grand-daughter totally passed me by.
A potentially excellent episode spoilt by the “Doctor must always win” forumlae…
I take your point. But surely, in the end, the Doctor didn’t win — the woman he set out to save did, in fact, die. A suicide wouldn’t ’save the legacy’, but no death would. It’s how others respond to death that does that. I found it quite moving that the captain responded to being saved with anger not gratitude: “Who are you to decide who is important?”
Though now Yuri and Mia now survive, Bowie 1 (what a great name) is no longer lost in mysterious circumstances with all hands. Sure, they are only “little people”
Considering that the Doctor could have taken them anywhere and anytime that would run the risk of contaminating the timeline, taking them home at the same time wouldn’t have been my first choice.
I suppose Russell T Davies is trying to build up to the New Doctor at Christmas, but I felt that he managed to spoil what would have been a great episode.
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malc 11.15.09 at 10:21 pm
No, I thought ‘The Silent Library/Forest of the Dead’ or maybe ‘The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances’ were darker.
Richard 11.16.09 at 9:45 am
I beg to differ, Malc. This episode brought out a darkness in the Doctor’s character that I don’t think we’ve quite seen before.
Wood 11.16.09 at 3:58 pm
Completely with Richard. Although “Midnight” (the last episode which was as good as this one, the one great episode, and one of only a few half-decent episodes in the fourth series) is arguably as dark.
malc 11.18.09 at 12:55 am
I thought the episode could have quite happily finished at the 45minute mark as the Doctor walked away having told the Captain that they had to die. It would have been poinent and have shown that that Doctor is indeed fallible and on occasion is unable to save anyone.
Instead he suddenly goes all bi-polar manic and comes over with a whole Master of the Universe syndrome that ended up causing the (suggested) pre-watershed suicide of the main secondary charactor.
Though how dying by your own hand in your house was supposed to save the legacy and inspire your grand-daughter totally passed me by.
A potentially excellent episode spoilt by the “Doctor must always win” forumlae…
Richard 11.18.09 at 9:05 am
This is turning into a geek-fest, but…
I take your point. But surely, in the end, the Doctor didn’t win — the woman he set out to save did, in fact, die. A suicide wouldn’t ’save the legacy’, but no death would. It’s how others respond to death that does that. I found it quite moving that the captain responded to being saved with anger not gratitude: “Who are you to decide who is important?”
malc 11.18.09 at 10:21 am
Though now Yuri and Mia now survive, Bowie 1 (what a great name) is no longer lost in mysterious circumstances with all hands. Sure, they are only “little people”
Considering that the Doctor could have taken them anywhere and anytime that would run the risk of contaminating the timeline, taking them home at the same time wouldn’t have been my first choice.
I suppose Russell T Davies is trying to build up to the New Doctor at Christmas, but I felt that he managed to spoil what would have been a great episode.